Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 11:01:09 -0700
From: AZGovernor@Earthlink.net ("AZ Governor's Race 2k2")
Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] Re: Values
To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Hey Kevin;
You're right. I was extremely clear as to my intentions at three meetings
of Libertarians, and all three have haunted me. At that time I still held
the romantic notion that all people who were Libertarians could be trusted
to be discreet, honorable and principled. I've learned a lot since then. I
especially thought that the 'old ALP' members could be automatically
trusted, but some members of the press have been on to me ever since, and
they didn't approve of my trying to make a mockery of CE. I also assumed
that this list could be trusted and the privacy of all participants would be
respected--how else could we talk openly? When it hit me that there really
are traitors amongst us, I felt like a kid finding out there was no Santa
Claus.
I had envisioned a concerted, and fun effort to pull it off, not the
self-destruct mechanism that came into focus. I don't even remember Mike
R.'s letter, but I do remember talking to him on the phone when he asked for
all my media contacts, which I sent him. I'll help any Libertarian, I
thought that's how we all thought, that it was "our" struggle to be free
that bound us.. As far as Mike goes, it was his jumping from one Party to
the next and the unwarranted speculations and accusations and just plain
stoopid comments that convinced me to disregard him.
I will always take pride in knowing that I faced the real temptation, and
managed to resist. Looking back, there were a lot of things I could/should
have done differently. Unfortunately, too much time and energy was spent
fending off 'my own people' when if I knew then what I know now, I would
have just ignored them and kept moving. If I should ever choose to offer my
services to the Libertarian (real ones who actually want to bring about a
restoration of our freedoms) Party again, I know who I can count on. Sorry
to disappoint you, Gary, but even the thought of spending tens of thousands
of my own dollars, and another year of my life seeking the 2004 nomination,
makes me cringe. Right now, I am convinced that I have done my part. I am
not interested in becoming a perennial candidate, paper, clown or otherwise.
I appreciate Gary's forthrightness in stating that the only reason he's in
this is because he was recruited, not because he had some burning desire to
make a difference or had anything to offer 'the masses'. He's made it clear
that he is not able to do anything timewise to spread the message. The last
place I'd want to be is in his position. And personally, I happen to admire
his being an adoptive parent, that takes a lot. So, if he got the
nomination, what does the Party get? Nothing, poof, fools again. All of
the press knows he's a protest candidate, so they won't/don't take him
seriously at all in the general just as they don't now. Even thick-skinned
ol' me would have a tough time handling that kind of embarrassment or
getting up in front of cameras or people and trying to convince them that
'now' I'm serious...no, really. I don't mean to stick up for him, but I
really think those people who put him up to it without concern for his
reputation and his future (serious) value to the cause owe him a huge
apology. It's been just this callous disregard for people that has kept the
Party a joke for the last ten or twelve years, and has defeated it's own
supposed purpose.
Whatever happens, happens. I'm still committed to doing all that I can to
restore freedom for all of us, cause that's the only way I'm going to get
mine.
As always,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin McCalix" <mccalix@sleepdebtzen.net>
> On Saturday 31 August 2002 10:54 pm, Steve Trinward wrote:
> > Woudl you all have kept it private among you? If it was a strategy
> > designed to (a) maintain the information flow as a potential "clean"
> > candidate; (b) maintain the issue as a potential for later; and (c)
> > keep the option open in order to trash the check ...
> >
> > Don't you think the AZ general public (or the Republic, or the state
> > gove folks themselves?) would have found out through the grapevine,
> > and begun to ignore Barry (as many did anyway?)
> >
> > As a strategy, could it have been made known to more than a handful,
> > without blowing the whole deal?
>
> I only recently subscribed to this list, so I'm not sure what Barry
> said on here, but I recall last fall, he addressed a meeting of the
> Pima LP (back when they actually held meetings). At that meeting, he
> said plainly that he was planning on qualifying for the funds, holding
> a press conference, and then burning the check. Now, I'm not
> questioning his word on that, but if he could say that at an open
> meeting at a public place, the argument that he needed to keep his
> strategy guarded just doesn't hold water.
>
> However, as I said, I only recently subscribed here, so it's entirely
> possible that I'm missing something. If so, from what I've seen so
> far, I have no doubt that quite a number of you will correct me. :)
>
> - Kevin
>
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>
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