Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:35:05 -0700
From: AZGovernor@Earthlink.net ("AZ Governor's Race 2k2")
Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] Re: Values
To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com


Hey Jason;

I agree with your thoughts, and probably would echo them.  The reason for
the conflict is because from the very start I made a plan, (which ended up
just like things did), but in getting there I was tempted to part from it.
I purposely left the door open to gain access to the forums, to side-step
the reporting requirements and to hopefully generate controversy/publicity.
To my dismay, nobody outside a small group even cared. :-(  I said I could
not make a public decision until it was real, i.e. that I was absolutely
certain that 'I could qualify', and I continue to believe that a declaration
prior is a hollow one and just too easy to be credible, like, "I don't want
to win the Indy 500".  C.D. was right, I didn't want to take possession of
the $5.00 money unless I was ging to turn it in and accept CE
funding--that's why I took pledges.  It became scary when the pledged
forms/money was coming in at close to a 100% on the promises.  I actually
had to face the fact that it was an absolute certainty that I would qualify,
and ultimately, I chickened out---I just couldn't do it.  Was it a
philosophical decision?  I'm still not sure--I just couldn't do it,
personally.

I have not shied from the fact that there were a few occasions when, if I
could do it that day, I may well have  The 18th of August (when I wrote the
'Got Freedom?' e-mail) was one of them, and I was sincere in making my only
real attempt to see what would come of it.  Your confusion is a reflection
of my confusion.  I hate to say it, but I'm only human and sometimes subject
to such vacillation.  If an apology is in order then, I do apologize, but at
no point was I engaged in deliberately going back and forth.

My imaginings of 'burning the check' simply weren't possible for all those
pesky technical/legal reasons.

In retrospect, I should say that Dave may have had the best idea.  I do have
to give him credit ( begrudgingly ;-).  But I just never thought of making
up my own forms and getting 4,000, $5.00 'protest' contributions completely
outside the Clean Elections.  I'm still not sure I would have received the
help or could generate the enthusiasm  I'd have needed to do it, so we'll
never know.  I handled it the best way I could.  I don't know what else to
say about the whole thing, that's all there is.

I appreciate the even-keel you have kept, and 'd like to think that were I
in your shoes, I'd have done the same.  But being one of the players, I was
enthused, disappointed, uplifted and all kinds of other things, mainly as a
result of the constant (always negative with the exception of Steve T.)
speculation, distortion and outright lies perpetrated by the 'wreckers' who
seem to think they have a lock on the 'l' word.  I'm a builder, not a
wrecker.  I want to take the party forward, not destroy it or just hold
ground.  I don't want to be the third servant in the parable of the talents.
I actually believe in the Libertarian philosophy, but it's useless unless we
get out and bring in others.  I've never been interested in joining another
intellectual social sit-around club...that's why I lost interest in the
famous one.  And I will keep my commitment to do all I can to forward the
cause of freedom, with or without your vote.

Sorry for the confusion.

As always,
                      Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "auvenj" <auvenj@mailcity.com>
 "AZ Governor's Race 2k2" <AZGovernor@E...>
> wrote:

> > Suffice it to say that, yes, I was able to qualify for funding at any

time
> > in a Janet Napolitano sort of way (she used the unions).  Yes, the lies

and
> > insinuations almost led me to do it on more than one occasion. (In my

> > 'pro/con' assessment--to piss Ernie off was the only thing in the 'pro'

> > column)  And, no, my heart wouldn't let me. I'm glad it's over.


> I'm really sorry to hear that Barry, because in that context I

> consider your appeals for the contributions (the fundraising letter

> and the email) to be grossly misleading.

>

> As a reader of those appeals, I had the distinct impression that you

> were doing everything in your power to qualify.  I was led to believe

> that my help was urgently needed in order for you to be able to

> qualify.  If, in fact, you could have qualified at any time then IMHO

> you were not justified in conveying the impression that more

> contributions were needed for the purposes of qualifying.

>

> I'm sure that it can be justified on a technical basis.  I'm not

> interested in parsing sentences and I'm not accusing you of outright

> fraud.  There's no benefit to be gained for freedom by doing so.  But

> I'm telling you...I believe I and everyone else who received either

> the fundraising letter or the email was led to believe something that

> you now claim wasn't true:  that you genuinely desired to qualify,

> and you were doing everything you could do to qualify.

>

> Sticking by my man, NOTA...

> --Jason Auvenshine

>

>

>

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